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Episode 49 · 3 months ago

Ep049 - Killing Time by Bayside

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

Did Bayside not get enough love in the 2000s? We think that might be the case. On this episode we talk about their 2011 album. 

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Welcome to finding emo, our podcast where we discuss our favorite albums from the early odds and thereabouts. I'm Blake Fisher, joined by Chris Bunyang and Kyle Simmons. We've we finally actually have the t shirt up on the website. So if you go to find an Emoi podcom you can pre order a t shirt, unless you're listening to this later than you know, the last week of April, two thousand and twenty two. In that case you can probably just buy the t shirt. Or maybe you can't because we've sold out and we can't make any more t shirts. A million people are bought. Topic has has bought US hot topic. Yeah, bought all of them. So now you have to get them all, which. Who wants to do that? Honestly, our of our three year plan to get rich podcasting does involve hot topping. It does. So you can round it out here too. You can do you can do that if you dig the show and want to want some some some Schwag. Anyway, today we are talking about the two thousand and eleven. This is the second time we've dipped into the two thousand and ten decade on the podcast. We're doing bay side's killing time from two thousand and eleven, and Kyle's going to tell us about it. Kyle, tell us more. Okay, dudes, this is one of those records that has zero information about it. So I'm going to read the extent of everything that is written on Wikipedia. It is going to take two minutes or less. It's insane and and we can speculate about some things after that. But here we go. Okay, so I said I was ready. I'm not. So this was released February twenty two, two thousand and eleven. It came out on wind up records. And am I wrong? Is that creeds label? Yes, well, it's not. Yeah, it's the label that lay that make create label. Cup are, yes, yes, okay, and Evanoce, and even that's true. Okay, so like kind of weird. They've been on vagrant and and I think that I think it's fair to say that Bay side was always kind of one of those bands that had hype around them, but maybe not the commercial success. And so from other articles that I read, it sounded like everybody wanted bay side after they put out the record. The walking wounded and I don't know if it was a bidding more or what? But they they were able to take their time and they chose wind up. Anthony Werenieri, the lead singer, says they they could basically be on whatever label they wanted. They chose wind up. They took a year to make this record, so I'm assuming they had a really big budget, not to mention Gil Norton produced, is not she might have heard of him. No, no, not cheap. Made some pretty big records, worked with some pretty big bands, and here it is. Here's here's the two sentences. On March twelve, two thousand and ten, it was announced that the group had signed to a major label and we're expected to release their next album in the fall. The album was produced by fame British Gil Norton, producer, Gil Norton, who had previously worked with such bands as pixies, food fighters and Jimmy World. End of information on the WIKIPEDIA age. That's it. How crazy is that? No, now I can tell you, like, if you go to you know how it's like linked up to reviews. Yeah, this album is well reviewed. Like there's there's not a bad review. There's no major site that reviewed this album poorly. It was one of alternative presses most alternative press, alternative press, most anticipated albums of two thousand and eleven. And I mean, I'll tell you guys this. I feel like people sleep on bayside all the time, like this is just one of those bands that never hit it. The album before this, shutter, was one that was lost in a Internet leak. I think it leaked like a month before it came out, and so I really feel like I mean also not not to not to make light of awful situation, but I feel like they've had bad luck, starting with the van, the van crash that killed their drummer. Yeah, and it's, you know, seriously injured a couple other guys than a couple records later, they their album leaks and then they put this out and the fact that we don't have any information on how it did, how it performed, I'm assuming it didn't perform. Well, wouldn't surprise me if this one leaked. Right. Everything was leaking around this time. And of course this is kind just to like streaming being more that's true. Not Quite. That's why has not quite in the US.

I don't think in two thousand and eleven yet. But well, and also you look at other records that were big at this time. This partic I mean bayside, is they are there pop punk band, but there are rock and roll. Oh yeah, yea, and more rock than and pop. This brand was not necessarily, I think, what was taking off at the time. At this time you had like, I think the ring leaders were like alltime low. We're coming up hard, you know what I mean? So like punk was starting to get a little more pop, a little more handsome. Is that fair to say? That's about right. Yeah, and so too bad, I feel. I really feel like these guys have just always been in the background, but they are truly some of my faves. So and that's that's all I got, fellows. Here's an I've got like another article that I'm going to reference when we get on a certain song, but other than that, that's it. Well, I've got it. Let's like mean, since we have maybe less to talk about it front on this one. I think something that just popped in my head was you know, you talked about, we've now said Multiple Times on on this show that you know, we can trace back generally some of the lack of success on a record due to it being leaked beforehand. This is happening all the time in the sus like this problem. I think it's just funny that, like, for the most part, the people doing that were probably had we're probably big fans of the band and like really like to the detriment of the band they liked. You know, I mean to be fair. I only know one person that's leaked a giant album before, but that's more than most. That's more than most people know. But I know that his intention was not to like screw the band. He really liked the album and and was responsible for it being leaked and and that's not it doesn't make it any better for the band. You know the Oh, you didn't have bad intentions, but it's just a weird time to be like excited about somehow getting your hands on something early and then kind of ruining that band's entire like thing they've been working on for a couple years and in yeah, that's a it's a bummer and I agree kyle. It's like they never quite could catch a break. I do think the label has something to do with it, though. I think that we've talked again multiple times on this podcast about how a lot of times people kind of went to a label and just kind of like inhaled everything that came from that label, like they were like fagrant kids and drive through kids, and it kind of felt like, not that they didn't branch outside of that, but they were like well, but this is my main thing, unlike wind ups, not on any of those people's that's not on the list of those record labels that we talked about. Well, and actually, the bands we were talking about, we're kind of bands people turn their noses up at right. Well, we didn't have an I had a dam not listen. Totally different crowd too. Yeah, and and so I think that selling evanescence to the that the crowd that like creed is. That's not a stretch, like that makes sense. And and I'm not dogging on these bands either. You know, I had the creed albums. Admittedly, everyone did, but you know, that's this is not either one of those bands. And I feel like it doesn't matter how much you like a label or how much a label like you. You back then we kind of did have lanes and not. Oh yeah, and not. It was on purpose. I mean like, Yep, they knew, okay, we can the the more we can motown this thing where we kind of do the same thing for every band, the better our resources are being spent. Were and all these are small labels, obviously. So so it makes sense. But you if you sign with the wrong one. I mean we've talked about this before, Chris. We like wouldn't when victory records wanted to talk to us. We were like, that doesn't make any sense. We'll talk to them, but that doesn't make any sense for our band to be on that label, like we would be the populist brightest colored album cover. You know, just didn't make sense. And I like but I like that label and I like some of the bands on it, but it didn't fit for us, you know, and I think that that's probably kind of what partially what happens to Bay side. Do you think that's fair? So say totally was. Okay. So I'm going to say this. I'm going to read this from another article. He says, let's see, we spent about a year deciding what label we wanted to go with, and we now know we made the rights decision. So you dudes know just as well as I do if they really had a year...

...to decide. I'm going to go ahead and assume. I haven't seen him live. I desperately want to. I'm I'm going to assume that they're fantastic because if they had a year to decide who they were going with, people wanted this band. You know what I mean? Yeah, absolutely, like, like, I mean poor guy. I mean going from victory, where we know now that, like, bands didn't make any money off of the successful victory records back then. Yeah, and and then this happens. Yeah, says, we'll see. The biggest and best difference with our new situation is that we had more time than ever to work on this new album. We spend a year writing and recording this record and he really gave us the time to make sure that everything was perfect. And it sounds like it. It's yeah, I mean it to be fair, like that's great, but ice, I do you can. If your last thing wasn't successful in the sense that like it, it didn't leave you like a ramp up kind of situation, if it leaked or if, yeah, sell well or something like that, you kind of need to get another one out quickly. Oh, yeah, be like totally. I mean, and it's not. I'm all you know. There is. It's a it's hard. It's a hard thing to fit because it's like there's the art side of things and there is the it's a business and you're trying to make money. As a bad you got a bounce, right, and what's so, what's crazy is walking wounded comes out. I say this. It may have come out of her before, but I believe it came out two thousand and seven. Shutter comes out in two thousand and eight. That's how quickly they put out a second album. This doesn't release until two thousand and eleven. So you're absolutely right. And knowing that shutter was leaked, I mean they probably even though like they're great man, this is a great record. They probably if ever there was a lull, you know, in in hype, it was probably then. Yeah, and yeah, I just think that that's that might be too yeah, because that's three years between. You're right. Shutter is two thousand and eight. So three years and three years not is not a crazy long cycle or anything like that. I think that's a pretty normal kind of release an album to or for a year, you know, year and a half or maybe like little time off, start doing a record, gone another tour, come back, finish the record, release it to you know, that kind of schedule. Jimmy worlds like the kings of that. They literally, just outside of covid would have just like clockwork the machine. Yeah, yeah, I mean they know exactly what they got to do. We make a record, we go to or the record and that, you know, that's how we make a living. And record in the fall or spring. Yeah, little tour, yeah, festival circuit in the summer. Yeah, and they and they good for them. They do well, but I do think baseide deserved to be bigger than they were. I think they they're another band that's on the list of we've done a few of these albums where we feel like they should have been more successful. We had the opportunity. We played with them one time, but let their singer was sick. I got sick that night too, and so they just did like an acoustic thing, whereas mostly like hey, we need the crowd to sing along, like we don't want to cancel the show. Is Literally just like but we get, but my I've lost my voice, and it wasn't like that. I've lost my voice. I hate that pity thing that singers do where they're like sorry, I'm kind of under the weather. It wasn't like that. was like he literally couldn't sing. So he's like, but we don't want to cancel. And it was my one opportunity hang out on a tour of us and I got six. So I'm like not, I'm sleeping in the van while everyone else was playing guitar here on the bus. I lose, but it's a funchs only. So Nice Guy, Chris. This is let me tell you about the Chris founier confidence of that year. As I asked the bus driver, I was like, we're probably going to need you soon. Could I have your card so that I know I can contact I still have it. I was just like, well, what, we're going to be needing this any day now that we did not spoiler alert, but I'm glad you got to hang on the bus, Chris. But yeah, I mean that's it. Shall we go to first impressions in that kind of stuff? All right, let's go to it. Okay, so first impressions, Chris. Let's go to you first. Tell us about your impressions. My first impression was I know this is going to be good because my birthday buddy told me to buy the day came out. He said by the Sun, the day comes out. Okay, I bought it and boy howdy does it come in just ripping. I mean, if ever there was an album that, if you are unsure...

...about, told you with it whispered three your speakers within the first fifteen seconds. You made the right choice. I see it again and it's just like Oh, cool, okay, I get it. So, yeah, I loved it. I listed over and over and over and over and over again for many, many weeks. Kyle, I assume you were impressed with this and she told Chris to buy it the day they came out. Huge, huge fan, always loved Bay side. When it came out I was like, Holy Crap, this is you know, this is somehow better. But I will say I was going to ask you, guys, if you remembered, because we went to you bought the record, Chris and we all went to a movie. What movie would what movie would that be? This year? Two Thousand and eleven? Two Thousand and eleven, would that be the first avengers? MMM, is that too old? No, that's probably it. Yeah, two thousand and twelve was first avengers. Oh Hmm, well, that was that feel like we when we saw a movie at the warrant, the Buffalo Wild Wings. I remember a night where we know that was avengers. Yeah, right, that was avengers. We because we got to the movie that wait to sit played the mavericks next. Yeah, yeah, well, because you, because I remember, because I remember talking about it in the car, because we listen to it there, because Blake hadn't listened to it, my correct at that point, and both of us were just talking about how I remember. I feel like I remember. You were like to this rips. I had no idea that it rocked, that they rocked this hard, and I mean, yeah, they're bayside, is awesome. When this record came out I was like, Holy Crap, still awesome and I loved it. I'm on the I'm the odd man out that if I did listen to this back then, I don't remember less. I probably did listen to it with one of you two or something, but but I hadn't really listened to it. So my first impressions are as of, you know, the last couple weeks, and I I like it. I wish there was more guitar driven kind of rock that didn't annoy me. You know what I mean, like yeah, and this is. This is not you know. This is I missed. Guitar Solos. Is My is my main known is that. I'm like, Oh yeah, I remember people used to put Guitar Solos and rock songs. That was fun and I feel like they did that throughout here. They didn't have like one token solo. Give me lots of Solos. And you know the last the other band I listened to that has a guitar Solos. It's like the darkness, who I love, and I'm glad that it's they don't have to be alone. bassides also putting guitar Sol Solo stuff. So that would be a tour. I'd go see that to her. Yeah, right, yeah, so first impressions are we all liked it. Obviously sounds like so let's get into track by track discuss question. And I lost my track listening front it. Okay, the track one already gone. Here we go one day. It's Kyle picks the clips for this one. But I had to extend that one a little bit to get that little chromatic look up. You had to back you did, because that's pretty fun. Chris as per, the usual your are drumming. So tell us what your thoughts are on track. One, dude, homies poetry will be walking handed hand in Hell. I love that line. It's almost an it's almost an alkaline treo line. Oh, would sorry, it is an alkaline tree line, but it's like done perfectly by them. Riffs and licks all over the darn place. Guitar work is fantastic. That's a perfect rock and roll song right there. That's how you start of album boys. Yeah, I would say so, Kyle. What are your thoughts on it? It? I agree. I had a hard time picking the clip because it just just cut. If freaking comes out swinging. Yeah, I do want to say this. What a album, what a freaking album, and what an intro track to follow angels and air waves with, because they don't waste a second on this song, like Oh, we're going to rip your face, we're going to melt your face off with this guitar intro. Then there's the verse. Oh, here's the chorus, and they just don't stop. And my birthday buddy mentioned the line. I'm going to finish it all and...

...honestly, this is going to be a show where I read lyrics that are fantastic, because this dude is the tea swift of of pop punk. Yeah, clearly a relationship went south before this record was composedly and I owe my gosh. I feel sorry for I feel sorry for them. So let's see. One day you're going to see the life sentence you gave to me. But I swear one day we will share this cell. I know it's cold, but I will keep us warm with all the hate I radiate. Will be walking hand in hand in Hell. But he sounds so happy to he doesn't sound that angry. So only he's singing these words. But Yeah, Guitar Intro. Oh yeah, and then the freaking I love the repeats on something in the way, Da, Da, DA, Dad Dadda. I love the song. It's a great opening track. So yeah, it's solid it. You're right, they waste zero time getting to the point on this opening track and setting up what the rest of the record has coming behind it, which Kudos too. We don't often talk about the notes we get after shows, but I couldn't believe when are my buddy harold that as a tunes tunes podcast, if you haven't listened, wrote he was like Tom Delong Intro, am I right, and I was like how did one of us not say that the show? What? What was going on then? Kyle, you're supposed to come up with that? No, I failed, you failed us. Anyway, let's go to track to, which is six sixty six. My first note that we haven't really talked about yet, was I'm listening to this album after kyle picks it. We're going to let you peek behind the curtain here, and so I'm listening kind of like for the first time, and then Chris messages like, Oh, of course it's Gil Norton, and I was like, well, that makes all the sense in the world now, because I'm going wow, the guitars are pretty great sounding and he's just Gil Norton is so good at rock guitar tone. I don't know what it is specifically that he does, but he brings out the they don't all sound the same either, because it's like this doesn't sound like foo fighters guitars, and food fighters sound like food fighters, and count and Crows Sound like kind of crows and Pixie sound like pixies. Jimmy world sounds like Jimmy World, but all of the guitars on those albums and bands that I just talked about are they sound better than kind of all the competition? In my opinion, and this is another example of that, Gil Norton is just real, real good with a mic and an amp and layer in those things. Anyway, that's my opinion on Kyle. What are your opinions on sixty six. My notes are guitars. Okay, so you agree and I agree. Question Markin and next point. And yes, and I'd hate to be the person he wrote the song about. I mean it is freaking me, Dude. Chris thoughts. Yeah, I felt similar. I mean it would be one thing if somebody wrote a song about me or like he's a bad guy and I like them, but if some he said I cursed to hell this magistrate who granted this on Holy Fate, and they thought about that a long time. It's really good. Yeah, that's not like something. You just like it. The flows out of you, like you sit down with pin and pad and you are like, all right, I hatred, oozing out of you like so we could dip a spoon into it. So thick and frogty. Well, it's great song. Six, it clip, by the way. Oh, very nice. I see you. What you see? You're trying to get the puns in here now because I got on the Kyle and's. So here the puns come. All right's go track three, Mona Lisa.

You're the guys on, Chris. What are your thoughts on Mona Lisa, as you are drum so I assume not terrible. That's hard not. Ya Know, it's a good studies salt's a good swinging six eight air drum and song. Yeah, love the non us. It's a great pop song. Production. So production that's perfect. But I think as somebody like kind of in kind of wasn't a music business and still listens for those things, you always kind of listen to him like to kind of trip up, like maybe they used all their tricks in the first two songs. Oh yeah, but by the third song, like okay, okay, this whole album is just going to be produced really, really well. Yeah, it's a great song. Kyle thoughts? So I'm going to give you my thoughts, but this is that I actually had a quote from Anthony. So he says I wanted to write a song with as many key changes as I could fit in and as many weird tricks as I could and see if I could make it sound listenable. Basically try and make something very complex sound very simple. So I wrote that song just to see if I could and it wound up sounding great, so it made the record. I agree, it sounds great. I I really love this song. I like that it's I like their formula right, like the they are. They are a rock and roll punk band and you almost it's almost impossible to hear a basside Soong and not know that it's them. But this one is a little bit different and I had to I in that clip, man, I had to get that Guitar Solo. It's just freaking wicked. I love the Lazy Drum Phil Intro to the song and I love the line your bed's been made, now go die in it. Pretty I like the you're my black eye, you're the black eyes on my road to wholesome. I think that's a such a good line. I'm into it. I agree. I think this guy. I don't think I had recognized Bay side's lyrical abilities until really listening to this this last couple weeks. BASIE's one of those bands that I always thought was a good band. I like the sound of I never got super into them, though, and it sounds really weird, but to be like, oh, I like that band, they should be bigger than they are, but I'm not. You know, it's not my favorite thing either, necessarily, but man, yeah, the lyrics are great on this album and I I I hate to be so thrilled and giggly about someone else's misfortune. Of obviously these are not nice words. He wasn't having a great time when all this went down. His loss is our game. Yeah, but amen. But there are times where I go, man, I'm glad that there at least is this fun creative outlet that is, you know, songs, and I get to enjoy them and maybe it makes that heartache kind of worth it. I don't know. Maybe he doesn't feel that way. We have to ask Yan. Yeah, yeah, okay. Well, let's go to track four. It's not a bad little war. Yeah, far I was sticking out. We are second and see, this is this is going to be a weird note from me, but first of all, know that guitar. No, there's no such thing that. I want all of the ridiculousness that is that Guitar Solo, because if you're going to go, if you're going to go there at all, go all the way there. Don't kind of give us a guitar solo that last like more than a verse. Get go the whole way. You gotta go the whole way. My note is going to be that I have no doubt, even though we have very little information on this in this album, I have no doubt that it this is all like meticulously tracked and and this isn't I guarantee it's not time corrected or maybe there's pitch correction on the vocal. I think there is. I can hear it in a few places, but that's pretty common. But what kind of sucks a little bit is that it's like so perfect. It sounds like some of the other things that sounded so perfect in the two thousands where it's almost like I don't believe that...

...they did it, but I know they did because I know there are a good band and I know that Gil Norton is a fantastic producer and is not going to go like phone it in, like, because I've never heard a record that he did it sounded phoned in or whatever, and that sounds like a weird that sounds like a weird thing to say, but it's almost like sometimes I feel like even though Gil Norton is one of my favorite producers of all time, I feel like on this album the vocals don't sit right with me for some reason. Like the guitar sound phenomenal, the draw all the instrument sound great and the vocals sound like they're like on top of it almost most of the time and they it doesn't feel blended as well, and that such stylistic choice, but it I don't know why it bothers me. On this record it almost sounds like they're almost like too clean sounding and I almost want like a little bit of dirt with my rock and roll kind of likes almost some like bleed or just like not to them to be buried. But they were like so on top of the mix on all this stuff. So maybe that's my critique of I don't know, maybe I don't know the story is there. I've never felt like that about another Gil Norton record that I really liked. In fact, I think Gil Norton's like the reason Jim Atkins the singer he is now. I think that he improved Jim Atkins vocals like and there was a mark and then it permanently they were different after they worked with him. So it's not like I think he's bad at vocals, like I don't think he's just a guitar guy, but just there's something about the vocals that just don't sit perfect with me for some reason on this record. Anyway, Kyle, what are your thoughts on on the okay, so there's something crazy to go along with what you just said. It has to be production choices, because this is the cleanest vocal that he has on any record he's he's typically just a little bit more grally than this and like becomes more so after this record. So I I would love to know a little bit more about that. And like, I don't I don't mind where they sit in the mix. I hear what you're saying. It was just the mix. It's like it's even like the way they recorded and just it sounds like it's like everything. And like, I think you're right. It's a choice, but there's something about the choice that I just don't like. But but like, but well, but what you're saying is completely, I mean obviously right. We listen to music and we have opinions, but there's what you're saying is valid because I, like this is one of my favorite bands. I know all of their records very well and after this record he is considerably more grally in his vocal. He kind of does a one of the like the Louis. Yeah, and I think, I think I want some of that on this record, Dude. Yeah, I think, I I think, I feel like it needs it. Not needs it, but it feels like everything is so perfect sounding that you if you could get just a little bit of well, of a raw or sound with the vocal, that's all it needs. Like you can really like, you can kind of change the sound of everything with the way the vocal is, which is what they were doing on purpose, in a different way, obviously, and it's the same thing for like a chiller record. It's like one we've not done, but saves the day. What's the reverie like? It sounds like he's laying on a couch, which is what I didn't like about the record when it came out. But like it was a choice and and in hindsight I'm like, okay, actually get it now. I think it. I think it makes the record work, but which that's going to be a fun one when we do that, by the way. But but in this case it just something doesn't fit right. I can't figure it. Wow, I have good I have good news for you. If you're left wanting that, you can continue in base side's cow. I will do that then, because that's what's leave me there. Yeah, I was going to say wish upon a satellite. Great, great line, and I love the line. Face your failures and hope we'll see it through. He's he's a great writers, wise and and they they put they play the guitar pretty good guys. I agree with that one. Holy I agree with that. Chris. What are your thoughts on truck for? You know, one of my favorite lines, and you pick that right, being that clip. You need a map to see how far I was sticking out my neck. Yeah, and then, I mean after that, your brain just gets melted by the Joe Satriani Guitar Solo. I mean it's epic and it kind of starts off. You're like, Oh, this a pretty good solo and he's like wait for it, just I had I would like to keep going now. Yeah, yeah, and I just...

...really Miss Guitar Solos. I don't know why we decided. I mean I know why. It's because radio stop being like wanting them. And people, I mean, but right, you know, so we so we go to these like basically single progression Solos of some sort and then like by and then radios like break, and then radios like we don't really even have time for that, and they're just like cutting that out. And so, you know, in some ways people just stop putting in them in there because people didn't want to hear them, apparently. But I grew up on like the classic rock of the s where the Guitar Solo was more important than the vocals, which I wouldn't go that far. I don't want to go all the way back to that either, but that pendulum doesn't have to swing so far from one side to the other. We could have, you know, Guitar Solos like this on this record that are fun, and you can have three minute songs with thirty two guitar says. Yeah, you can absolutely do that. Or even just give me, give me the Middle Guitar Solo. You know, dude, that's a great one. That's a great guitar Solo. It didn't have to be super long, I mean, but I like the long ones to come on. Let's bring them back. I'm glad the Sax Solo is come back, though, at least in some form and fashion. I feel like people those are all over the place now and I'm into it because I played saxophone always like the Sax Solo. Always been a billy Joel and Elton John Fan, and bring it back. I'm all for that. I like the people where I see people touring with a saxophone player. They deserve to get paid to get that. Get that band nerd on the bus man. Yeah, man, bring them along. One Song, like lie. What was that band? and Mt Three? Yeah, I mean many three. Did it? One thousand nine hundred and seventy five. Had A guy that played Sax and Guitar Keys and stuff. Yeah, got you on midnight city, and that the name of the in that the song that has that said. Yeah, that's a great, great album. Did we finish our thoughts on track four? I think we did. Let's go to track five, which is sinking and swimming on Long Island, damn it all. To finally, yeah, Kyle Simmons, what are your thoughts on track five? It's not on there, but the intro is great. The freaking big guitar chugs that freaking line. I think I finally found a way to go to heaven without dying and I'm on my way over the freaking soaring music that's happening. It just it does it for me every time. And then and then they're like, Oh yeah, we're going to hit you with some whoas, and it's like man, they play me, they know what I like. In they're keeping you, they're keeping in here. Chris, what are your thoughts? You know, this is a decent song. I feel like this is the well, it is literally the build the album. So this is kind of that mid tempo, mid album tune we usually talk about. But I really did notice the vocals again. They just kind of they really pop out to me. How even on this song that's like not the best song the own, but still good. Just lots of layers of vocals, harmonies and the OHS that you played, it's still great song, just not my favorite on the almatal. Yeah, I think I'm pretty much there with you, Chris. I do like the my good intention just keep sliding by the wayside. That's a good line to there's really not been a song that doesn't have at least a couple lines where I go, Oh man, that's a really good line, like it's pretty good at that. BA'm with you. It's kind of in the middle. We're in the middle of a record and I feel like it's not it's the weakest of what we've listened to so far. I think it's fairly fair. So let's go. I've tracks and not so good. That's not so bad. That's not a bad place to be. We'll see what happens with a tracked track six, seeing sound. This is the first around here is the PUN is a friend these days with U...

Chris Monie. What are your thoughts on track six? I Kyle picked a great clip because the verse is awesome and still didn't have time for the chorus, which is got like three hooks in the chorus, the I am lost part, the willows and then the dodd dot dot it at all, I mean, Dude. And then, and I don't want to steal you guys notes, but I'll vibra slap, gets slapped and then into a key chain age. This song has it all and then it ends with a little tremolo guitar note, just just a little cherry on top at the end. Holy Crap, Kyles, lots of good he's in here. Did he steal any of your name? Is So, I mean in a way, because I think I'm going to like, I think you guys will both agree with me. This record has a sound, you know, like the guitar. The guitar tones aren't identical, but like it's big guitars, Guitar Solos, quick intros. This, to me is the most green day sounding. Yes on I had the same no like that, like it's like, you know, the verse, the Mike Dirn't freaking Bass tone. That's yeah, like everything about it is very green day. And then I I'm going to I'm going to do this on like every song and pain can feel like a boomerang. You close your eyes, it comes back again. That's a freaking awesome line. I'm totally with you on the Green Day vibes. I'm also getting like super big motion city soundtrack vibes on the versus his vocal sound, like Justin a little bit. And Yeah, but that's a weird thing to say, like in a way. So, but yeah, I definitely hear the Green Day vibes in a good way. It's not me dogging on it all. If you're gonna Green Day deserves to have people emulate. It's a good band of copy. Yeah, Oh, yeah, and do it this. Well, yeah, yeah, don't do it in the the bad way, doing the good way, and they do. I think they do in a good way. All right, let's go to track seven. The wrong way. Tell me now you find yourself at the bottom of the reflections and your news. I don't think you're right. Now. That's good. And Kyle, what are your thoughts on the wrong way? It rocks surprise. I like it. Dude. They reference futures, which is the next record we're doing right. Yes, pretty spy Gil Norton. Can Gil Norton is this? Did this podcast just get met? Is Pretty Meta, I wonder. I mean, do you think they're referencing that? One hundred defferent? Okay, one hundred percent. I believed in futures. I mean I think you just because that's the whole line, like totally. And then also that the beginning of the clip. The reason I picked that is because there's a really weird I mean it's cool, but a weird like paramore misery business esk vibe to that verse, the second half of the second verse. Yeah, the futures reference kicks but and then I'm a sucker for the chance, and then you're the type of girl who puts on cyanide perfume then asks for kisses on the neck from every boy in the room. That is a freaking line, dudes. Yeah, I'm into I mean, I think it's cool song and I definitely was like they've got to be referencing Jimmy World futurestaff right. I mean that it's the whole line except for the word always isn't in it. That's the only difference. So I feel like that's got to be a Chris. What are your thoughts on it? That's it. That's another banger. It's a great freaking tune to believe the belie believe callbacks in the chorus, and I mean you have time for it, but there's another freaking slam and Solo in the midst and too. We could have just made every clip be Guitar Solos. We really could have dude it. That's not cross my mind. It really did, because you guys are I know both you guys like Guitar Sols, but I feel like it's not always the best. It's like what I want to do, but it's probably not the best representation of those the song as a whole I'm normally trying to yeah, let's you know. So I think you made the right choice, but I'm glad we got a few solos in there in the clips for sure, because I do feel like it's just an underused thing and I'm they make me happy. I mean and free...

...time someone does a Great Guitar Solo and like in a live setting, I mean Chris and I just kind of look at each other and laugh if we're at a show together, it's just like that's what you did. It's just fun, like there's IT. That's what they make me feel, like this show and Tulsa, Yep, when she had that freaking Marshall cranked up. Yeah, do. We were laughing so hard because it was just like pure bliss. Was Yeah, it's nothing better. Okay, let's go to track eight, which is on love, on life, shoot by our song. Should buy art song, because, after all, it's only our lives anyway. Can Let bother is fact and say just stop taking ourselves to Sikyle Simmons thoughts on on love or life or the song. Okay, guys, I'm going to give this song two things that we don't do often enough. One is very rare, one is less rare. I'll start with the less rare. This is my sacred hearts. Okay, it's a little weird right, like maybe it doesn't quite fit, but if there were a sacred heart song on this reck this is. Yeah, but my other compliment that I'm going to give this is the highest form of praise that I give on this podcast. This could be a muppet song. Kermit the FROG could Freakin sing this song and kids all over the world would be singing along with them. This is a great song, as this are we're in given. Yeah, what'll they the song the David to it wasn't a paramour. Which one was it? I forget now. I'll think on it and and our right. But yeah, I've talked about it once before. Yeah, the we've done it once before. This is this could be a freaking muppet song, like Kermit the frog could sing it, and with that, like it's just a great song and I think, I think them stripping it down the way that they did just kind of shows like they knew that they had something good right, and a good song played anyway is still a good song for the most part. My favorite thing about about this song, like mix wise, and I wonder what you think, Blake, if you're going to love or hate this, but I've been playing this one around the house and my kids love it. I love how they just crank that harmony in the mix. It's so much so it's so hot that you it's almost difficult to sing along with the song because you don't know what you don't your mind will start singing harmony and lead. It's hard to sing one straight part, but I love it. Well, okay, so that's interesting. You say that. I think the production change I would have made, and I know they can sing the harmonies live, is I would add someone else sing that part. Yeah, because they like then it sounds like a duet kind of thing, because if it was a muppet song, it would just be kermit. It'd be kermit sing with someone else in this case because the harmonies great, but I want a second person singing it, or a girl or something. You want fozzy? Probably not fozzy, feel like. He wasn't known for his Bozzy, never had a hit single, he didn't have a rainbow connection, but he was there for moving right along. Yeah, that's true. Or what's the what's the big dude? sweetems? You do it with sweetems, but I probably would have had someone else singing the harmony. I've I feel like I I'm always so torn on vocalist like doing their own harmonies versus it just kind of depends on the song. I still tend to lean towards liking someone else harmonizing. I just feel like it makes the vocal more complex and instead of competing so much with each other, they can if you have a voice that blends well with the other one, it's like it compliments it, instead of if I sing on top of me, it just sounds like me. I'm not against it, though. It's like I've it works some, sometimes great, but I feel like this is a case where it doesn't. Maybe that's a weird thing to say, Chris, what your thoughts on it? You know, now I'm thinking a lot about what you're saying, because I said that the harmonies were great, but you're right, that's a lot of anthony. Well, but I mean that doesn't mean they're not good. I'm just saying that might have been the reason. That might have been the thing I would have done. To a piece Kyle's note, if you look at the liner note, I think Jack is technically the guitar players technically credit as the background vocalist. Right. Well, so maybe he was singing on it. Ma,...

...maybe they just sound that much alike. This is one of those bands where you know how that happen. No, it does like the two guys sound like, even though, trying to think of another band. So Oh, to get up kids, whenever the Bass player sings the songs, he sounds like Matt Prior. But it's not like on ten minutes, right. Just think of another yeah, where they, you know, two guys sing together so much to and it sent up. Well, I mean and honestly, for some people they couldn't tell the difference between like mark and Tom and bling Wayne to. I'm remember my friends saying that. Now that always seems a little strange to me because they sound not a lot alike. But there are a lot of bands like that where I do have to think really hard about who's singing at the time so that if my note could be totally pointless and wrong because it might be the guitarist that was saying. I know they could do harmony live, Yep, but okay, well, you know we'll see. stration fantastic. Sounded expensive, sounded PRICY, Kyle. The only exception I saw that. Okay, a muppet ask. So that is yeah, that was a m up at US song, and you're right, at that is a high praise. That's still one of the most the most jealous I've almost ever been of another musician, was a buddy of ours got to play with the muppets and I was like, I am jealous, like more than more than all the other things that come with being in a some sort of your like, did you talk to Kermit? Was He nice? I told I tweeted. I was like quit, you can't. Well, how can you hear Um something you stalls peak? Stop doing and yeah, that would be forever the thing I would brag about if I if I had done if I had done so. So, yeah, that is high praise, Kyle. I like that award, a very rare one to and but I do feel like it doesn't fit on the album super well. But it is a good song. I mean, I'll give you that, but but I'm not going to take my mup at a word. That's fine, you keep it. You feel a great bay side it. Case I would Anthony Runier. He keeps it on his mantle, the muppet award that you just gave him. Yeah, just now. Yeah, he's. Yeah, we should just now. We should make this award and send it and send you got a laser edger, Kyle. We've got to do this. So I could. Why are we not? Okay, we're going to start sending the award. Imagine, guys, he's he opens it up. Yeah, well, can you imagine the crap sandwiches that Chris is given out? We know what it is until you open it could be a crap sandwich award. It could be the highest of praises the Muppet. What are we calling it, though? It needs a better than just the muppet awards. What are we calling it? We got to come up with a better name for gast sacred heart. needs to be some like alliteration. There needs to be something going on. So we'll come up with the name for the muppet award. That's a good one. Okay, the Jim Hin song. No, that's a stretch. I'm gonna go ahead. Beat down, beat, play, jumped on that Cook. I'm sorry. That's it. Give me immediately disliked this. I had a visceral or reaction to that one? That wasn't good again. I'll trust that. Okay, let's get a track nine the new flash. This thing working? My Heart's not beating anymore. I don't know if I play car. What are your thoughts on the new flesh? Well, believe it or not, guys, I really did this. What I love the the don't know where I background over him repeating the chorus. I really like the line the best that. I can hope to be as strong enough to leave. I mean it's no secret I think he's a good lyricist. I really like this song. I love the way it builds and yeah, it's a good one. Chris, what are your thoughts that clip? That was my only note. Is it gets so chill and then it gets so hard right there. That I hope. Man, I just feel like it would be a crime for them not to play that song live every single time they go out. It's a great tune. You know, it's interesting that you just brought that up, because that made me realize that, you know, he also did Gil Norton Produced Whatever the FOO fighter record is with the bomb...

...on it. In anyway the in the kind of documentary of the FOO fighters where they're kind of talking about doing their wife as a band and whatnot. He mentions that it wasn't Gil Norton, though. It was someone else. It was, I want to say was like Clive Davis or someone that Dave Grohl was talking about how, you know, there's kind of always a juxtaposition in food fighters between that soft side of songs that Dave would write and the like of really hard stuff, and it was, you know, you listen to like the color in the shape and it's going from like, you know, crazy loud rock and roll to like February stars and these kind of jumps back and forth or whatever, and I think in the document he said something like but like the guy was like I think it was Clive Davis. I might be wrong without that reference, but he was like, but it could be both, you know, at the same time. And then they did that record where they kind of did a little bit more of like they good on a really quiet like bridge into a Oh, is it echoes silence patients and yes, and what's that first single that was from that? It was the pretender, you know, and that was kind of the first time they did a great job at jumping back and forth between the two, and that was Gil Norton as well. So right, he also did color and shade, yeah, Kin, which is like yeah, all time. So you did to their record. So it's interesting that you brought that up because, yeah, that was another thing that I felt like they did on that record, again with Gil Norton. So he's a great producer and that's that's why is one of my favorites. I like that. That's a hard thing to figure out how to do, is go sonically from that to the other and not jar people in a bad way. Exactly the way that it I don't know if it's the compressure production, but yes, it doesn't. It's not like like a like a jump scare. No, and you almost know it's coming every one. It's all dynamics and yeah, it's but that's I like it. I mean it sounds like he was challenging they they were challenging themselves, like as songwriters and the band, as far as going like I'm gonna write a songs with the many key changes as possible. Well, that's like a I don't know, that's a challenging thing to do. So yeah, I'm into I'm into the ideas that they've got going and there and they're dumping for I just I yeah, there's just not as many people that. Apparently we're into it, because we don't have any data about how it's sold. So I wish I knew how many people heard it. Well, I mean we know how many people have streamed it. I was gonna say really were. This is released before streamings as ubiquitous as it is now. So I don't think those are always telling them are. I mean Kyli even the songs that are the most popular and Apple Music. I didn't check spotify, like if I'm like a million appears. I liket it. Five or six song. Yeah, fit or six songs. Yeah, I think some of the best worked have ever done. H Well, I mean, I don't disagree with you, but I also think that. I also think they're one of these bands that keeps putting out good stuff. They're they're most recent record is a absolute banger. Those guys should listen to it in Tara Bang. That's a great, great album. Name Listen. Yeah, down switch foot thought so too. Yeah, did they do it too? They've what is that kind of that already words? That all specific? Yeah, you're allowed to do. You can't copyright titles of anything. Yeah, that's why you can technically release the same book title or Movie Time Loud. No, you're allowed. I mean I say no. There's yeah, the unwritten rules of rock and roll. What is that a word? Did they both make up the same words? It's a symbol, it's a it's a it's a it's a punctuation't even know what that is. What punctually? I think it's an exclamation with a question mark instead of a period underneath it. Oh, I think that's right. So it is the Christ said that referenced it earlier, the Question Mark Exclamation. Okay, yeah, I'm but it's together. Yeah, there's one dot at the bottom. Yea, I am learning. Know that. Learning new things. I did not know that that's what that was called. I didn't even know that was a thing. I don't think. I don't know if I've been seen this character. Okay, well, now that we're learned, we're teaching you things on and we're learning things as well on this podcast. Let's go to track ten, which is the title track. Killing time wait and for the moment to Colle Walking. Okay, I've got...

...to revisit this now that I just looked up what an in tarobeying is. I've never seen this punctuation in my life ever. But it exacts shine. Obviously does. I just looked it up. It exists and two people have named their out. Used it in speech? No, but I always do it in order. I do exclamation point or question mark exclamation point next to each other. This is there on top of each other, but it means the same thing. Of that, but that's how I always see people. It's like question mark exclamation point, like that's its own thing. But I've never seen them on top of each other. Think of all the time those people could have saved. Was An interior? Not Really, though, because it's a shift. All probably say you can't, no one knows that keyboard shortcut. You got a google it. I'm sure there is. Think of all the time they could have saved if that key existed. There we go, Oh yeah, we're gonna we could get rid of one of these brackets. I'm sure something. We don't need all these things on the anyway, let's go back to track ten. Chris, what are your thoughts on the final track? Killing time? I'm into it more really great guitars, just on the edge of being like an epic I mean it is an epic metal song, but you know, it's got like the mega death cod and Cambrian kind of themes right there. Nice, just nice way to end the album. I've get you. We are, we are. We have hit like, you know, when they're mining, you hit a vein of gold. We've had a vein of like ending tracks after like a real dry spell. Dudes. Yeah, I think you're right. Yeah, we had a few, had a funer row that were like why, what happened? And and then, yeah, we're about to we're about to get into some real territory of ending tracks, with doing futures on the next episode, for but yeah, you're right. We have been on a streak of them and it's not easy. It's not an easy thing to do, as mentioned. So Kudos on a good inn and track. Kyle. What are your thoughts on it? I agree with my birthday buddy. It's great. But I'm at the risk of sounding Douchey, I'm going to I'm going to say something about the guitar tone. That's okay, it's it's is sounds in the chorus. I love it just has this tough sound, you know what I mean, like freaking sounds tough and edgy, not quite like, not quite mental, but also metal at the same time. I love the way the guitar sound in the chorus and I love the line I'm halfway to happy now and I always mistake it for progress. Yep, another good line. I mean honestly, like I said, he's got at least one of those in every song. So yeah, I'm with you. And Guitar sound good, good aning track. It bookends the album well with good intro track and good final track, and I'm into it. It's good and I for some reason have some sort of weird love of title tracks being at the end of an album and so the beginning of it. I don't know why. That is a nice tech but but I think of, you know, like this album or motion city soundtrack, even if it kills me. I don't know why I like that so much. It feels different in some way, but I can't put my finger on why. Okay, so let's go to lasting impressions. Kyle, do you think it holds up? I think you're going to say yes. I mean I'm not going to hide my bias. I love this. That's okay, will allow it. Yeah, holds up, I think. Really my my favorite thing about bayside is that they are there, there rock band. I mean, yes, it's it's pop punk, but like they play rock and roll music and not many bands do that. There they go balls to the wall the entire time and yeah, it holds up. It's still a lot of fun to listen to. Chris, how do you feel? Does it hold up? Absolutely? This album sound, I mean already gone as probably like one of my mainstay songs that just always ends up and playlists as I'm listening music throughout the years. But when I went took some time to really listen this over the last couple weeks, I just couldn't believe how good it sounded. Yeah, it sounds like I mean you could have told me this record was made six months ago and I would wouldn't have doubted it one bit. Sounds spectacular. Is A freaking shame that it did get more attention when it was released. It really is and, to be fair, it does make me people, I'm sorry, no, go ahead come. Yeah, it does make me wonder, like, you know, girls working...

...with some dudes like these guy the bay side. Dudes can clearly play the guitar. The stuff sounds great, like at the very least, you kind of hope that like Dave Grohl got to hear already gone and go hell yeah, brother, it's exactly I said, and I'm sure, but it's a it's the perfect. It's almost too perfect that two out of the three of the guys on this podcast like, really like this record and blake barely heard it. Maybe it was maybe the world. We just oversaturated this yeah, section of music so much that even though me and you really like the album, we didn't. It's not like we told Blake like this is a great album and you really need to listen. Is True, just it was just like it wasn't on my radar to during that people through the baby out with the bath water. They were over this and and it got it got included in that. Yep, yeah, I think you might be right. Yeah, I mean I'm even though I'm only getting familiar with it recently. It doesn't sound dated at all to me. So that's normally my kind of stamp for does it hold up, unless it just doesn't hold up to listening to after all these years, which some of the records we've done. That qualifies, but normally we're not doing them if we don't think they're good. I'm sure we're going to get around the some though. Eventually people are going to wish they didn't request US doing their favorite album from the early thousands that none of us liked. But it'll happen. Goal is to ruin your childhood. Yeah, it's gonna Happen at some point. We'll see. I mean we've kind of had some fun with some albums, but we haven't truly hated anything that we've done on the show yet. So I got some more good Charlotte text this week. My God, Really Charlotte, when we're a GOOD CHARLOTTE? We did kind of dog on them a bit, but we also gave them a lot of credit. Let's not wasn't all. We didn't hate it. Well, I think clearly maybe we didn't give them as much as we intended, because I know that none of us hate them. Yeah, we've probably just it just didn't it just didn't age well, that's all. Yeah, I did write that. That's a fair I'm we will defend that statement. I don't think it did. Is it their best album? Kyle, I feel like we should go to you first on this one. You seem you could probably speak for all of us on this one, unless Chris has a different opinion. He might so it's a great album. I don't think so, because I think it's hard to this sounds really stupid. It's hard to capture the emotion that probably went into making a record after your bandmate died. The walking wounded coming out after that. Yeah, the title alone, the walking wounded, you know, like it just it hit, you know, and and also like musically, this is this is a really good one, but I really like their latest release, dude, like it might be my favorite. Okay, I like it. In Tara Bang, in Tara Base, in case you don't know what that a were mentioned in Tarobang. Not to be confused with switchfoots album of the same title. Don't listen. Switch foot and thin gets bay side. It's not. They're not the same band, but I just thought I mean both craping and both. I we've all learned things tonight, apparently. Chris. Do you have a do you have an alternate choice for is it their best? This is the only bay side album I'm that. I'm familiar with. I love it inside it out and I never touched another one. I'm gonna let my goldest week is to is to change that about myself. Yeah, I think I'll probably listen some more too. I was gone over the weekend so I didn't didn't get listen to as much the last like forty eight hours. We should really listen to more, but I think I will go and listen to some of their other stuff because I like it, but I want to hear some of that Growley stuff that the kyle was talking about. That's what I want to hear. So I don't and maybe we would have been bigger fans if when we when we play with them, we barely got to use their me sick. Yeah, because it was just like one acoustic guitar to Acoustics. Can you imagine? Yeah, that could have been a total like it was a defining moment, right, it could have been. And it was a show we weren't supposed to be on either. It was a show where the band we were on tour with ditched us because they got on that show. And then we knew Bay side's tour manager and so we called her and were like, Hey, can we play for twenty minutes at the Front will be on and off so fast, and so they squeeze us on the show and then we sold more merch than that dumb band that we were on tour with. It ditched us that night. It true. Yeah, so that was a that was a great night. That's when I'm I got stare at night. Was Fun night. See, I don't remember you being said. Yeah, I never ever get sick and I didn't like throw up anything. I just felt terrible and went sleeping a bad way. I just yeah, all I remember is like, you know, we're like a dry spell on the tour. We'd had it some rough nights and that was a great night. That was a that was a roughier in general to play. Yeah, we got to play...

...for a lot of people that night and they ang it was fun. Fun Nights, very fun, and they were champs to not cancel. Like they went out there and put on the best show they could without a vocalist. Basically, what about? Is it their most important album? Kyle? I mean, it's probably hard to kind of pick with them because we felt like they never quite launched in a way that you think is fair to them. Absolutely, I mean, I it is really hard to say because we don't obviously, I'm pretty I think it's fair to say this didn't see success like they thought it was. Yeah, they didn't put out another record on wind up right, so probably not. Yeah, how could it be? I mean, with all that, I know right well and I don't even in again, it's kind of the what I said at the beginning. The theme of this band is like it's almost like, you know, they're doing it for a living and I love them and I'm and I'm glad they're still making music, but it's like they can't catch your break I don't know. What is their breakout, you know? Yeah, and and unfortunately there were a lot of bands like that that didn't even get this big. Okay, what about desert island songs? Two or three of your favorites, Chris, they you always say two or three and I always pick three. Yeah, I mean, I don't know why I say two or three, but someday I want to pick two. I try, I'll try to remember. It'll be a bad album. Yeah, happy zero. They're all right, I'll pass. I'd rather just go to the desert island. Tell me all. Listen to the ocean is. That is the harshest insult you could possibly had. I'd rather have no music than have your music on a desert island. Yeah, that's hurtful. It's harsh. Already gone in six hundred and sixty six. I know the the lead tunes and the singles, but God they're great songs. And then my number three is seeing sound as a PERFEC pickpop song. Right there, Kyle. What about you? I think I'm going to go, already gone Mona, Lisa and on love on life. I think this feels lame, but I'm picking the same ones as you, Kyle. All I had, that's where I had had marked and eat like, which is weird because, like I I do think on love on life sticks out. Not It doesn't. It feels like it doesn't fit. But I do like the song a lot. Great Gray Song, so muppet worthy, and muppet worthy makes all the sense in the world. Now, like that's exactly what it sounds like. I'm going to now be listening for that. Sometimes when I'm listening the albums, that that muppet quality, and muppet quality it is a quality thought that what's his name from fly of the concords? Has the ability, obviously, to do Brit Britt nobody's perfect. What's the worst song on the album? Kyle, do you have one? Man, I'm not getting rid of a single song on this right. Okay. Chris, do you have one you'd get rid of? Not Get rid of. No, but I think sinking and swimming on Long Island. Yeah, it's all right. I think that's the weakest on the record, but I'm with Kyle. I wouldn't, I wouldn't kick it off. I mean it's not at least I would called the worst. Oh, no, it is. It's unfortunate. Yes, it is like a good title. Yeah, and then growing out of show. Or Kyle, do you have one? That's say one you did not like it first, but now you love it. No, man, I was all in on this band when I heard it, and so no. Okay, Chris, it's all good. You have one. I think on love, on life, what you guys both picked for your who you know? I this is another time where I was kind of really into the rock and roll and I think the battles were a loss, like kind of roll my eyes. Yes, thought thought they were playing a making a play at pop radio or something, and I hear it, I'm like not just a good song. Maybe it's a little oddly placed on this album, like you said. I think, like you said something that extent kind of sticks out a little and you say, I'm just saying it's just kind of sticks out. I don't know that you could have placed it anywhere that it would have not stuck out a little bit, because it's mostly guitar driven, straight up rock. And then, but being the Ald you guys, little man I am now, I did it. Do me a favorite and played around your Kidos this week. Okay, tell me how they respond, because my kids won't stop. Okay, I will, I because that's like it's a great test actually, because they don't care what year something came out or what it sounds like. They just start like I like that song and that's and they'll be like who's this? That's how I know if they like a song, who's this? All right, I guess that's really it. Right, that's all the questions that I have. Any any final thoughts on the album from either one of you? Fellows, Kyle, I feel...

...like you've do you have anything wise to leave us with? And I wish I did. Okay, well, I think I got nothing. That's fine. There's there's no need to have anything. Well, I guess that does it for us. On this episode again, we've got t shirts for presale on finding email podcom. You can check that out if you're into wearing our gear to have people ask you what does that mean and you can tell them it's a podcast I listened to and you could listen to it as well and you'll basically be our little, you know, proselytizers. You can also email us info finding email podcom. I'm now a little jealous of Chris on the twitter. Now that Elon Musk has bought it. I'm just going to watch the crap show that happens now. So excited to watch it. Chris is over there taking care of twitter, so you can tweet us at finding you a pod. You can instagram us, you can facebook all those fun things and you can tell us where we're wrong about stuff. Thanks for listening and we'll catch you next time.

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